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Am I Gay If I Am Attracted To Transsexuals?

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NO! You can't be gay for your attraction to transgendered women. 4 simple facts, and notes...

 

Fact: Gay men like penises

Please note: A particular amount of trans women will have negative emotions towards their male in-betweens.

 

Fact: Gay men often like hard/muscled/hairy bodies.

Please note: Transgendered women often have soft, curvy bodies because of the hormone reassignment therapy, and how it induces the female hormone, estrogen.

 

Fact: Gay men like men who identify as men, live completely as men, aside from the possible weekend drag gig, or similar, or alike.

Please note: Transgendered women have breasts, and gay men, while some are admirers of them, are not "into" boobs like straight men are.

 

Fact: Gay men are worshipers of the male form, and are not secretly straight. A true gay male is terrified by the sight of the female anatomy, and is not likely to engage a female sexually.

Please note: Trans women embody the feminine form, and do not resemble men, as we accept men.

 

 

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The statement you have made is a bit of a no-brainer. The problem is MOST men who are attracted to pre/non op transsexual woman like them because they have a penis aswell as the male form, which in turn makes them bi sexual.

 

The only way a man is straight is if he is attracted to a genetic woman or post op.

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^not all men who engage in sexual activities with pre op trans prefer seeing thier dicks. some are just sexually interested in their feminine looks and sometimes oral sex is enough for them without the ts girls actually getting naked.

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Being attracted to transexual doesnt change your sexual identity at all.

TRANSEXUAL ARE COMPLETELY WOMAN pre-op or post-op we are just born without vagina....

 

But if you will give time to learn more about us, there where you will find out the answer....

 

Thanks..

Maffie

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The answer to this topic seems so simple to me:

 

1. If the gentleman is solely attracted to the femininity of the woman, then he is not gay.

 

2. If the gentleman is attracted because of the penis, it cannot be denied that something homo erotic is going on; no?

 

Simple.

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It depends on where you are asking..

 

But no, we are not gay - the fact that we are turn on by shemales is the bi-side of us .. ; )

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Hi darlings!

I made the experience also with hetero men: their girlfriends don´t allow them to have anal-sex,`cause they think it´s not normal or they are afraid that their girlfirends think they are gay.

But nowadays many women want to make now the experience, there are even many women who want to make the anal experience with Transexuels and Transvestites, `cause we are more tender and careful!

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Hi darlings!

I made the experience also with hetero men: their girlfriends don´t allow them to have anal-sex,`cause they think it´s not normal or they are afraid that their girlfirends think they are gay.

But nowadays many women want to make now the experience, there are even many women who want to make the anal experience with Transexuels and Transvestites, `cause we are more tender and careful!

I'm trying to determine how your response has any thing to do with the question raised in the topic?

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Unless you are filling in a survey or citizens register, I'm not sure one has to try and define their sexual preference.

 

From a religious perspective I am sure you have already sinned many times over in every other facet of your life, so you're probably damned regardless Diktats that are centuries old are notoriously inflexible. Much like me looking at an old school report for the definition of the person who I am now. That was a bad example because mine would probably be rather accurate.

 

I guess we are limited as to the number existing definitions available. Either that or my own vocabulary is rather lacking.

 

Now I quite like it when girls wear cat ears. I don't even want to imagine what that may say about me.

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Hey ExitSigns!

 

ON TOPIC: My view (for what it's worth) is that a person's gender identity and sexual orientation are not "binary" choices that can easily be shoved into narrow - some might say, artificial - categories. These matters can be placed on a spectrum of choices and degrees of behaviour and even the location on that spectrum is subject to change, depending on the context of a present relationship, general experience and exploration of "self".

 

OFF TOPIC: Cats ears are cool. Any reply to a forum post can be covered with the following default settings (just look at the comments below any online news story for evidence of this): it's all Obama's (or other celebrity's) fault; compare anything you don't like to Nazi Party actions; blame it on global warming; use it as proof that global warming is not happening; quote verses from scripture to prove that the end of the world is happening; or completely random comments based on unique personal experience or obsessions to "prove" a poorly argued point.

 

If all else fails, just attack the previous poster in a very personal manner (the "ad hominem" approach).

 

 

 

 

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Unless you are filling in a survey or citizens register, I'm not sure one has to try and define their sexual preference.

 

From a religious perspective I am sure you have already sinned many times over in every other facet of your life, so you're probably damned regardless Diktats that are centuries old are notoriously inflexible. Much like me looking at an old school report for the definition of the person who I am now. That was a bad example because mine would probably be rather accurate.

 

I guess we are limited as to the number existing definitions available. Either that or my own vocabulary is rather lacking.

 

Now I quite like it when girls wear cat ears. I don't even want to imagine what that may say about me.

Well, if you appreciate girl cat ears opposed to boy cat ears then it is safe to assume that you are hetero. And please, don't downplay the act of self realization and identification; doing so can enable one to navigate successfully through a world filled with confusion and ambiguity.

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As I have said in the other topic that came up recently where someone asked whether he is gay to be attracted to "more active shemales" I'm just saying the same again over here:

 

Firstly one is gay, if he considers the possibility of being gay when actually being with a girl. Second, he is actually not looking for a girl but for what he would call "shemale," a perfidious and wicked expression made up by the porn industry to exploit girls who by bad luck happened to be born in the wrong body. And it is really sad that the concept of fulfilling homoerotic fantasies of guys who are too ashamed by themselves to stand up and be seen in public with men (and some even with these girls) works. I mean I wish it didn't coz it traps so many girls in this whole thing. And I wish they could get normal jobs as "easy" as anyone else can. Other than that, I really wonder if other men think about a girl's pussy first, too, even before they meet her. Over here obviously men unfortunately seem to be interested only in the sexual aspect of girls. First come their genitals, then....her genitals again...I wonder if any ordinary man who meets a girl in a club or in the streets would ask her, wheter her pussy is f*ckable instead of a greeting. Over here similar things seem to be the normal way of communication. It's about how big is this or that, are you active or passive...and so on. I mean, if I wanna be with someone I first wanna know what kind of person that someone is....and later when we build up somewhat of a basis for a possible relationship and we come close I start thinking about the sexual aspect. Not before I get there. And then it's definitely not about whether I'm gay but about how to make HER happy and pleased WITHOUT making HER feel HUMILIATED by my actions. Who thinks about whether one is gay to be with a transsexual girl definitely misses the point or the essence of transsexuality. Slogans such as "the best of both worlds" are made up by the porn industry, it's not a voluntar choice of a person to be in this condition. We are talking about people, girls who are girls coz they feel this way, and that's how they are to be accepted and respected. The one who thinks of having his way with them because they are different is not looking for a girl but for something else and since there is a choice between male or female he is looking for the male aspect which definitely makes him a homosexual. One who is possible to look past that aspect and see her inner beauty, her femininity which displays in so many ways, movements, behavior, choice of words, interests, the look in the eye, touches and so on...is purely heterosexual, but he surely wouldn't question himself for he knows and is confident with himself.

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I think you make some fair points regarding treatment and attitude, StarRain. Many points are equally valid, if one alters the criteria, to genetic females. I am sure you are absolutely delightful and clearly have a soundly functioning moral compass. I'll be honest my reasoning for being here is part of my sexuality, I think that is quite apparent. Which in your eyes renders me homosexual. I'm entirely comfortable with that. I do not consider homosexuality to be derogatory. I simply am not attracted to men in general. I'm sure life would be much easier if I were.

 

One though, would have to question why you came to a transgender dating site if you did not have something within your make up which caused you to be attracted. I am sure one can contrive a number of reasons for being here. I have no reason to suspect any alternative motive. But it would go in part, against some of your own point if there was.

 

People are allowed to question their own sexuality as much as their gender. It is largely for people to make up their own minds what suits and defines them. I accept what you are saying, I don't think it makes one any less understanding or receptive to transgenderism, because there is clearly something distinct in the majority of the people here that causes a heightened attraction. We cannot help our internal dialogue sometimes. It is a fair enough issue to be discussed.

 

I have never requested details as to whether anybody is active or passive or asked questions about their genitals. To be fair, nobody has asked me either.

 

 

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I have never requested details as to whether anybody is active or passive or asked questions about their genitals. To be fair, nobody has asked me either.

To be fair, this is mostly all I've been asked about.

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To be fair, this is mostly all I've been asked about.

 

In no way was I doubting that takes place, I imagine it is exceptionally common. My ex often used to get requested her cup size.

 

I was just separating the nature of his argument, which seemed to stagger between treatment and the right to question one's own sexual identity. Which I feel are two distinct topics. I got the impression he felt the term homosexual was in some fashion detrimental. But I confess that is largely conjecture.

 

But the initial statement you quoted still remains true.

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To be fair, this is mostly all I've been asked about.

That any woman on this site can make this observation is a sad reflection on society in general, in my view.

This site is just a microcosm that reflects a more widespread malaise, I think.

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I think you make some fair points regarding treatment and attitude, StarRain. Many points are equally valid, if one alters the criteria, to genetic females. I am sure you are absolutely delightful and clearly have a soundly functioning moral compass. I'll be honest my reasoning for being here is part of my sexuality, I think that is quite apparent. Which in your eyes renders me homosexual. I'm entirely comfortable with that. I do not consider homosexuality to be derogatory. I simply am not attracted to men in general. I'm sure life would be much easier if I were.

 

One though, would have to question why you came to a transgender dating site if you did not have something within your make up which caused you to be attracted. I am sure one can contrive a number of reasons for being here. I have no reason to suspect any alternative motive. But it would go in part, against some of your own point if there was.

 

People are allowed to question their own sexuality as much as their gender. It is largely for people to make up their own minds what suits and defines them. I accept what you are saying, I don't think it makes one any less understanding or receptive to transgenderism, because there is clearly something distinct in the majority of the people here that causes a heightened attraction. We cannot help our internal dialogue sometimes. It is a fair enough issue to be discussed.

 

I have never requested details as to whether anybody is active or passive or asked questions about their genitals. To be fair, nobody has asked me either.

Well, I don't see anyone deragatory as long as he or she doesn't reduce another person to no more than just a sex toy. That would be extremely sad and insulting. Of course the question why I am here is legitimate and comes up regularly and I can't give a one-sentence answer. The short version would be that I've once had a friend who started undergoing her change, yet for some reason she didn't want to go to the doctor at first and at the same time was begging me as a friend to help her if I could. I was gathering information about HRT and hormones, brands and products in general, I was then searching on various communities for people who might have access to hormones and would be willing to sell. I've been thru sites that even spoke languages that I personally don't really understand until I came across someone on a German community where my story moved a person who finally helped out. Soon after my friend decided she would go to the doctor the next time but me and her got into a fight and we haven't been talking for five years.

Some years later on chat a girl approached me on chat. She was probably the most beautiful and witty person I've ever come across and we used to speak talk day and night until one day she told me her whole story in tears and with fear that I would hate her. She too was a transsexual girl who prior to her transformation had married a Norwegian guyto get out of her home country. She was deeply in love but he was gay and she was a girl inside. In order to tell him she wrote him a moving letter but before he could read it, he broke up with her leaving her destroyed. The day when she told me her story she sent me the letter and even tho it was not for me, it moved me to tears and strangely I realized that a person who can come up with such strong emotions and so much love is what I've been looking for all my life. And I knew that I was falling for her, no matter what her flaws might be. We met and we spent some time together, which was partly disturbing, partly coz we hardly ever had any time to ourselves meeting up at her aunt's place, partly for her drug consumption and the fact that she was less attached to me than I would have expected or wished, yet in the end she said she spent a wonderful time with me. We were planning to go on a trip and meet up on Crete next time but a few days later she announced that she would go to Crete with her neighbor. Even tho she assured me it would not be anything serious she did sleep with him over there. And even tho she didn't want to lose me or break up with me in the beginning she did after a few weeks. Her friends would later tell me that it was because she was still like a child and that she just couldn't be alone and deal with the distance. He treated her badly. He used her for his fun but when she wanted to know whether he loves her he told her that he could never love her coz she was "born as a man." All this happened without my knowledge for we had no contact at all but at times it was as if I felt that she's not doing well. In the same way I felt a few months later that she going thru something big and it came to my mind that she might be in Thailand having her SRS which before our break-up we were talking about. So I wrote to the clinic and indeed she was there yet the doctor forgot to tell her my greetings. A few weeks later she suddenly wrote me on Facebook inviting me to her home country but at that time I neither had the money nor the time for such a trip...and I wasn't of course sure whether I should go after all after what she has done to me. So I avoided an answer...after that she wrote me just a few times and very briefly, but giving me the feeling that she regretted what she did...then I didn't hear from her for a while and suddenly I read on a friend's facebook, that she has died. Strangely the doctors said that AIDS that she had had for 3 years at least was the cause of her death. But on the other hand no responsible doctor would give SRS to a patient who has AIDS...these circumstances had always been strange to me...And I was clean as seemingly all her partners of the past have been...What I regret tho is that I just couldn't forgive her while she was still alive. I remember one of the last things she told me, when I told her she could still talk about anything to me: "I know how you feel....I can't, especially to you. You've always been nice to me." I will never really know what exactly she meant and felt. Nevertheless the whole experience changed me.

 

I am not here to find anybody. I'm here for some talk coz at times I need it while there is no-one else around and in a way it feels easier to talk to people who somehow know about some things that have been influencing my past and in general to people whose lives aren't all that easy. They can understand somewhat better and won't just tell u that everything's gonna be all right and not listen any further. Of course I've had enough time to get over my ex's death. Still you don't just walk away and forget about everything that you've got to know about some people and their lives. I'm here coz I respect these people and in a way admire the strength they have to go thru all the difficulties in their lives despite a usually hostile environment and I have quite a nuber of friends who respect me in return.

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THE GENDER WE ARE BORN WITH. OUR SELECTED SOCIAL GENDER.OYR SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND THE DESIRED SEX POSITION ARE FOUR DIFERENT THINGS...PEOPLE CAN NOT BE CATEGORIZED BY ATTRACTION IN MY OPINION BY NONE OF THIS CRETERIA LET ALONE ONE ONLY..

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THE GENDER WE ARE BORN WITH. OUR SELECTED SOCIAL GENDER.OYR SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND THE DESIRED SEX POSITION ARE FOUR DIFERENT THINGS...PEOPLE CAN NOT BE CATEGORIZED BY ATTRACTION IN MY OPINION BY NONE OF THIS CRETERIA LET ALONE ONE ONLY..

Explain the 4 different things??,

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Traditional heterosexual only way of love

Lesbians,.

Gay,transgender homosexual world in designing generic........... and SURPRISE Five kind: Bisexuality that is me

 

Yes L=Lesbians B=Bisexual G=gay T =Transgender +heterosexual

 

Men with female or trans post-op( no female?)....What's missing from the uterus?

Men with Transessual or transgender(pre-op )))))

Men with Men travestit o crossdresser

transgender transvestite with transgender or transvestite

 

Oh + deviation Strapon,BDSM

 

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First off, Homosexual means same sex. A male and a transsexual are not the given description of homosexual.

 

Secondly, from my personal experience I can tell you I'm definitely NOT gay. I'm not attracted to males at all, and to be honest I could not tell you if a guy is good looking or not.

 

When I'm attracted to a TS girl, I'm attracted to ones that are very feminine looking. Any sign of body hair and I'm turned off. Male features in general are a turn off for me, such as a square chin, or broad shoulders etc etc.

 

With all that said, an active TS girl is major turn on for me. A nice "tool" is also a turn on. Every other feature I want feminine. Long legs, big butt, sexy lips, eyes etc etc.

 

I think it could have to do with the fact in the bedroom I enjoy being submissive from time to time(not all the time). So an active TS is able to take control at times. Even oral sex can be submissive while with a TS girl. When I have a female giving me oral sex, I feel in control, she's doing what I want.

 

I think it's quite normal for men to like strong legs on a girl, or nice abs on a female. That doesn't mean they like strong legs on a man, or a guys six-pack.

 

The same can be said for a lady with a nice tool. You may like it on her, but it's unattractive on a male.

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